Ego Versus Divinity In Man

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Comment by laughingRain on June 2, 2009 at 10:40am

hi I'm back you lucky person haha! you are such a pleasure I have found to relate to Mstik I hope u stick around like forever!

these memories are not like full blown. they are like feelings and then as time goes by more feelings confirm the first feeling and start building towards a climax thought which points to who I am as an essence spirit, in my life after life travels.

also, doing retrievals, which I seldom do anymore, as seems I've graduated from that activity, but having done them, it makes you realize how we keep coming back to our earth, our physical plane primarily to collect so many experiences within all these roles and personalities and we keep expanding our own self that way until another graduation process happens, where we have a choice then, if we want to do another life or not.

some of us just don't have a choice, the young ones are swept along in the process. but a choice factor seems to be earned by the sweat of the brow, and well worth it!

if you have some concept that is boggling your mind, you are immersed in it. in time you get tidbits of info coming in, through your curiosity, as I see it, your willingness to receive the answers to what is concerning you most.
my boggle session was with the concept of linear time.
it took years to see linear time as a dream we all dream, that in actuality, everything is happening at once!
all lives are unfolding at one time, the past, present and future all now. centuries become meaningless to gain this perspective of just how free we are to create our personal circumstance, not stuck in time at all!

I like the Jews for their industriousness. They are not lazy people. Hitler thought they were taking over, because they know how money comes..through hard work of their own efforts, it's like built into their DNA. Hitler was threatened by the prosperity they could bring, he felt the white race should prosper monetarily, and that the white race was superior.

It's not true, our race, our color has nothing to do with who is superior and who should rule who.
the problem is humans distort the truth, they try to make it real. a lie to be real. We are one vast entity is humanity, we have to get back to love value, brotherhood, and we are doing that, but only one by one, as it should be so.

your story about hiding in the bushes, this is how it was. I read hundreds of accounts just as you stated, from people who were there. They left us their books and slowly they transition, we have only the books they left behind.
People were hunted down relentlessly; even if you were married to a Jew, the gentile was made to get a divorce, or suffer the same fate as their mate! this was awful!
Even if your great grandmother was a Jew, you were considered tainted blood then and sent away, from your very own home, taken away from you!
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
The trucks did come. into the ghetto where at first people were stuffed and herded like cows among disease which sprang up like typhoid, etc. families living in one room. the farms were searched also. you were not safe anywhere.

I was in an uprising. on the roof. I made bombs, we made them. we threw them at the trucks! we fought back! we bought ourselves some time only. we could jump from roof to roof, so close were the housing.
it was my triumph to fight back. it builds character of courage.
now I only carry the sorrow of centuries in my soul. I am not depressed, but there is a deep sorrow someday I must lift away from my soul.
when you cried in 6th grade at the mention of Hitler, Mstik, it was your feeling memory operating. the soul never forgets it's lives, and sometimes sends a glimpse to us through our feelings of who we were, but are not now.

my thought is we cannot really see the whole life or it would be too confusing with the new person you are now, and we have to get to a place of forgiving it all with the least amount of memories, then it is easier to make a new life.
but the bleed through happens, so we can deal with it piece by piece.

Comment by Mstik on June 1, 2009 at 7:10pm

Oh shoot! I wish you didn't have to leave! But I will look forward to talking to you again tomorrow. This is a subject dear to my heart as well. I'm glad we have eachother to talk to!
K

Comment by laughingRain on June 1, 2009 at 7:04pm

have to go rush off now mstik but will talk some more tomorrow.
it is a subject dear to my heart.
thanks for being here for me!

Comment by Mstik on June 1, 2009 at 6:54pm

So you actually have the memory of a couple of other "You's??" That's amazing! I keep tossing around the thought of parallel lives, but it boggles my mind to think about it. I always wonder why this is the only one that I am aware of.

As for that life in WWII, I have always felt an ifinity with the Jews.....I love their ceremonies, songs, everything......I cried my eyes out when I went to a Jewish Synogogue once with a friend of mine. I was just soooo touched by it that it blew me away. But, I've also had a couple of dreams. The one I remember the most is that my family lived on a huge farm, somewhere.....not sure if it was Poland, but I think it was......my brother who died young in this life now, was my disabled brother back then. He was in a wheel chair. We must have been out on the property walking him around because I remember seeing the trucks come to take my family away and I hid us in the bushes. We were both hysterical, but we knew we had to be quiet or we would be found out. They looked all over for us, but that's all I remember. I feel in my Spirit that they eventually captured us, though. Everytime I am going through something awful in this life now, I always tell myself,
"This is nothing compared to what the Jews went through".....
And I have told myself that for as long as I can remember.
When I first saw Hitler in a movie at school, I was either in 5th or 6th grade and I had to put my head down. I couldn't look at him, and I started bawling my head off. Then when I went home that day, I brought it up at the dinner table and I became quite upset just talking to my parents about it. I do remember them telling me that he was just a horrible man, but he was dead now, so I didn't have to worry.

But, my husband and I, both, watch every single thing that ever comes on TV about him. I have a lot of the stuff taped. I can't bear to read or hear about some of the stuff, especially the experiments they did on ppl like you. I don't know if I was experimented on or not. I did a past life regression one time and remember being there, but no details. However, the guy that was doing the regression said that I did horrible things and that really upset me. So I think I must have been one of the ppl they used to do their dirty work with the Jews. I didn't want to, but I had to, evidentally. I believe that it was that life that has made me into such an empath today.

Also, I would like to know who this person is, sho reminds you of Hitler. I want to see him. Please give me a link.

Thanks hon, for letting me talk about it....
LY

Comment by laughingRain on June 1, 2009 at 6:06pm

Hey Mstik, I think I was in the holocaust, there was two of me there, possibly 3 people. I've heard it's possible you can send down 3 of yourself into the same time frame; especially if the life will be a short one. I do know someone on the internet who's picture looks like Hitler to me, and he acts like him.
I don't know if it's channeled, I just get on a roll when I write, the words come faster than I can type sometimes.
I was obsessed with the holocaust for years and years as to why it happened, how it could be prevented, and life after life, I tried to get others to act independently of leadership, seems I was always like a liberal democrat even in Greece. you know, your vote counts, that sort of thing, while everywhere I looked I saw only slaves, or immature ones who wanted the leader to do it for them....they would work hard for just a bread crumb, they wouldn't ask for more!
They would suffer, like the Jews, blinded by the power they held in their own hands, they denied themselves the right to live, maybe because they felt guilt, I don't know. and I seem to remember my deep angst, that my people, the Jews, thought and believed that they were really just going to be deported, when most all of the trains went straight to the crematorium or to the showers that gassed them.
You see, this was not believable.
But the resistance knew. And they tried to wake them up.

Living in bunkers underground, like animals, did the resistance do. Only there, we love one another. There was no love during that time of history, only when u saved another's life, then there was love born.

Guilt is awful. love your video! Down with Guilt! haha! do you see your life in the holocaust? If so, please jot down some details in a reincarnational group I'm trying to build.
I was in the resistance for one thing, one of me. there was a child me also, in the labs. dreadful experimentation was going on with twins.

Comment by Mstik on June 1, 2009 at 4:16pm

Hey LR, what is this "Requiem to Hitler"? Were you channeling or what?? I've always had an obsession about this entity, because I believe my last life was in WWII as a Jew.
Have you spoken to him or what? This was very interesting to read, as well as very insightful of you! Thanks!

Comment by laughingRain on May 29, 2009 at 2:52pm

Requiem to Hitler

I am glad you found your Eva again. What a feat of intuitive talent. I see your soul was not recycled but given one more talent, to get it right this time.
Although you have actually given much to the world this time through your new talent, receiving just as much notoriety as your Hitler self, you are still without her, Eva, who stood by you, loyal, in love, even while you became the most hated of criminals, even while she knew you were demented. You may see her as assigned to you from the beginning of whatever time is. She represents the love and allowance you lacked.

You cannot believe, that even while Eva stayed by your side and listened to your tormented soul as she saw her job, in that other life, now that you have found her again, she wants nothing to do with you. As a new being going here, she is repelled by your advances; after all you killed her, remember? Now, your heart is bigger, do you understand foriveness will grant you the freedom from karma you desire? It starts with forgiving yourself. It’s totally an inside job, the outside circumstances have nothing to do with what self forgiveness is. After that, you may learn to forgive the outside circumstance, to love what is against you, your enemy, as you so have fabricated him or her. you will surely be presented with further opportunity to learn.

New life circumstances awaited Eva, for she had done her best, while you proceeded to do your worst.

Do not worry your rather charming head over this. Cease your master manipulations of the collective giant wandering here deprived of one rain drop of love. Do cease to laud the insane, for all ego’s are insane, it’s just that some more markedly exhibit insanity than others, but we all have an ego, and at one time or another did something we wish we hadn’t done. It was a lack of knowing of the consequences of hurting another, or even of hurting a whole nation. It’s misplaced compassion, a seeking to understand perhaps, but turn your focus instead to those who promote for others their right to live unmolested by government forces or proactive groups, equally misinformed and equally Godless according to their own perceptions and lack of knowledge.

For, ironically, even the Jews elected for slaughter by calling down forces which would return them to their homelands, which would turn them into fighters once more for the right TO BE! The Jews are the meek ones who will inherit the Earth. Come unto me saith the Lord, come to me as you are, not as you wish to be, but as you are.

That is why they are called the chosen people because of how they suffered, to be thrown into the ovens, in some cases still breathing. Such cruelty, even the devil, if there were a sovereign devil, and there is NOT! would cry out in agony for his sins against life. There is no devil, there is only man who would take on the robes of the devil. Thus, it is the ego of man who does the harmfulness, expressing what is not love. What is not God. To deny you have an ego is to deny you have a selfhood.
Do not waste your time saying you are perfect while witholding from another your love of them.

I need not inform you, the white race made lampshades from the skin of the dead jews, but all should witness the viciousness of what is the EGO!

For it is, and will always be, that the ego believes it has separated from God, and must prove that death is the solution. That one race is better to live, than another.

We in America, are the melting pot of all races. Making love to one another, we spawn the races into what is acceptance of one another’s differences. We do not know why we fall in love with another race than our own, but we do, and we remain, the nation that says, give me your tired, your poor, that you may be free and in some cases, they flee for their lives to US!

And now Hitler is reincarnated here, in this bounteous land of the free. How ironic, that he has participated in a great melting pot nation, when he strove in the other life to create that supreme white race. It is somehow right that it is so.
This time around he has done much better with his life, yet he is clearly having some of his old traits and characteristics of too much anger and great manipulation capabilities.
He’s proud he’s such a bad cowboy. It shows. Eva has found him. And in finding him, he himself admitted, it wasn’t love at all that bound them together, it was but karma.
Oh well, the work can be now, or it can be delayed said Eva, but it will eventually get done.

He says he has turned to God, indeed, that’s another manipulation technique and does not ring true through his behavior. It is not what a man says, it is what a man does that betrays his true nature.
Indeed, something wondrous did happen to his soul on this journey as concerning Y’shua, who did reflect back to him his own torment and grief. Yet, take heed, Hitler that you do not misinterpret Y’shua’s visit unto you.
Y’shua is far above emotions of grief, sorrow or pain. For Y’shua knows our future and is in exaltation for us, all of us, as he holds the vision we all step into along with a multitude of ascended masters posing as ordinary people among you. The light forces advance at tremendous speed!
And yes, J spoke to you as regarding power or love choices. You have not assimiliated that experience properly either, for you have not laid down your guns and ammunition yet.
Ah! Allow me to eat my tasty words. I did see Hitler resigned from the military, several glimpses of this flooded Eva’s soul as well. In one such incidence he finally had taken the wheel of his soul; in another however he was still demanding comfort and imposing himself upon others, figuring that life owed him something. Yes, he’s rather ill now, not quite up to par as he could be, still blaming others for his own ills, and still going along thinking he’s the only one knows how to suffer properly, a savior complex all in all or even a rebel without a cause.
So then there is hope after all for his soul. Eva rejoices at this, but recoils at the sneers Hitler still sends her way, for what reason she does not know. Somehow even his laughter comes out as a snigger, leaving her standing there in the vomit of his pretensions. Didn’t she die with him? Of course, perhaps it’s just not enough to die for another. Perhaps you have to die twice for another?
Wait. I think it’s about forgiveness, and that it must be total, and then mistakes need not be repeated.
Yes, I’m unto something. Get out of my way! ha! I have received word from J, it is not my own creation of knowledge. I am thankful to share it when I can.
Yes, J’s word is true! If you say I have not known his word, nor his presence, you call me a liar, a deluded person. In that case, Eva continues, you kill me once more. What a game it is!
It is your Charles Manson and your Jim Jones, and your Hitler and your Mussolini, these are the deluded ones you might speak against, and spend your time more in worthy manner doing so, than in attacking one who gave you only love. You create of her a victim to be, when this is not true. She is not victim to your criminal leanings, and do not call it your passion, what is lies to another.

J was simply playing in your own mud pen, because you must become aware of how you carry from life to life those horrible emotions of all the Jews, as they died, young and old because it was said they were but vermin, and squashing a bug was not a big deal to you. When you wavered in indecision, your followers picked up the slack. Mein Kampe, indeed! Can you imagine J advocating exstinction of an entire race? Seriously, you have to pick life or death here. You can’t have it both ways. You were lucky J took an interest in you. You need to ask him to return to you and explain, it’s not Eva’s job to ask him to come and have a chat with you again. You have to welcome the master in. Do it!

Eva was on your back about supreme race business, all the time, she is still on your back. She was assigned, remember? She is loyal to her cause, not to your ego self.
I have thought about Eva a good long time and spoken with her in private. She lives. The dead are not dead, mark my words.
In truth, Hitler was a child soul, from some other planet. He entangled with karma here and became with delusions of granduer. Only God can deal with him, it is not Eva’s assignment in this life.
He regards dying as a minor inconvenience, which shows only his general dissatisfaction with life, but at the same time, wielding out death proclamations as Hitler did once, is the same type of mindframe, whereby, to say thus, oh, it was so inconvenient, the task of wiping out a race, and Jim Jones, also, the death weaver could say the same, oh my, it’s so inconvenient to drink this poison koolaide, I know, folks, but force it into the lips of your babes for if you don’t, then you don’t love me, and you know, well, I’m right. We will show the world exactly how bad it sucks by dying for a cause. I’m sure a spaceship will pick us up!
I have no idea what Jim Jones said. I am aware of what he didn’t say. If he mentioned God, I’ll bet his lips have been burned off as punishment for talking about something he knows nothing about. I am angry, but I’m using my anger in a way that proclaims the rights of all to live long lives and prosper without any kind of stupid leadership as we saw in the example of Jones and Hitler.

As I mentioned afore, Eva has paid her debt to life and chosen other, more happier circumstances for her remaining years. To say there are aliens among us, appearing as humans, should not be so unbelievable, for it must be kept in mind, that when a person dies, their real self is freed from the body,free to make and plan another life circumstance, with others of their choice, who hold similar plans. There’s more than one solar system with life, get used to the idea.

There are warring aliens, and loving aliens. There are technical aliens, and there are Mother Theresa aliens. There are baby aliens and full grown aliens.
We are all together thrown into an experimental world where we play with death; throwing it about like it was a hand grenade in the hand of a kindergarten student.

Somehow, we’ve not destroyed the world yet. Yet the bombs are there, and some of us wonder just how to dismantle them, or will they always be there, underground, connected to a button that could get pushed accidently, or by some demented person who says God made him do it?

When I look back on the holocaust, this world becomes a sick joke. I took comfort from Levi when he pronounced NEVER AGAIN!
And I figured he was right. I will march beside him and go down with him if necessary.


Eva’s job was to forgive Hitler. Through forgiveness, which comes from God, he can rectify himself; correct himself from her example, then forgive the Jews as a sort of afterthought, when he should have forgiven them in that other life. The way Eva’s sees it as her human self, back then, Hitler (look at the word Hit) should have forgiven the banker Jew who had refused to give him a loan.

From this one incident, enjoined with other incidents I’m sure, Hitler built a case against the Jews of such proportion, it is now a part of our history we can never erase. Humanity itself has been defiled, but not by God, who has given us free will to do just as we please here, with our creativeness.
Strangly appropriate, Hitler was reborn as a Jew. This was part of his payback karma. He wanted to pay it back, what he did. He has now contributed some good to the world to balance the accounts. Yet he wants Eva back.
He killed Eva, she didn’t think much about it, she had no reason to live anyway at the end of where he had taken her. She would have been put on trial also for standing beside a devil. She wouldn’t have been able to explain what she was doing with him.

Eva will not come back to Hitler although she thinks about him daily, she thinks about his soul, not about his accomplishments in this life, or that life. As a baby soul, Hitler has parental strings tied to him; this is to say, he accomplishes nothing without those influences acting on him, to bring him to more maturity on his chosen planet. He once even explained to Eva, in secret, he was from another solar system far away. And so it is with our J, that he lived here, but did not originate from Earth.

Eva will die for a cause willingly, but she has grown past needing to die for a stupid racial prejudice cause.
Eva likes all peoples, aliens included. She puts no importance on how a person appears in their suit of skin, race or heritage. She measures souls by their emotions, not by their IQ, which is man’s measurement tool.

Stay away from the angry is her motto in this life, for anger is a formidable and destructive tool, especially in the wrong hands. It is for each of us to get a handle on our own anger in this day and age, and train it into a pathway which betters mankind without killing them or robbing them of the right to live here, unmolested, within their own beliefs and endeavors. We shall cooperate together in the new age, this cooperation is what will bring in the new age, new inventions, new enterprise, the grasping of spiritual principles operating, truly a golden age is at hand.
We have the capability to live for 300 years, if desired, the thing is, not many of us would want that long of a lifetime here, yet in the new age, it is entirely possible to have just that!
It is in the constitution; we have the right to pursue happiness. A Hindu, a Christian, a Muslim, a Catholic, an agnostic, a democrat, a liberal, etc etc this is clothing for the soul. Allow them to be, as God will say, come unto me, I accept you just as you are.
Blessings to you all, ye are Gods!

Hitler evades his karma now. He refuses even to accept forgiveness from Eva even while he demands it. He’s still emeshed in the dark side. He wants to understand how each life is precious here, but he thinks in his former old way that life is a joke. He sees only gophers running around. Vermin. He has not stepped into the light, nor crossed the bridge into timelessness. He does not understand he has been used for the purpose of goodness to prevail, (in this life) for God to prevail here, among us. He will not give his life to God.
He will not yield to God, nor to man, man’s passage. He will proclaim God has gifted him. Yet he will not consider he has gifted mankind and paid back his karma already. He takes himself down and remains unrewarded for his work. While all the signs are there, he is being rewarded, he remains in his dark hole until rescuers come forth to fetch him.
His reward awaits him within eternity. He must forgive himself first.
As each of us must do that also. We are One. We are growing. We are entering a new age. Ye are Gods!

No matter what it looks like out there gang, love is the only truth. When you know this, it will set you free in your soul.