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Talking ACIM, J, and Esoterics in Same Breath. 2 Replies

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laughingRain Comment by laughingRain on September 8, 2009 at 10:18am
Kasha said:
Please just talk....tell me more, I can't seem to get enough about this and how I am a part of it. I know I am, please guide me Retrieve me. ::waves::
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I sense you're excited so you're getting something here that excites you and of course you're a part of the world and a part of God, so that's excited knowledge too.
As you go along you may start remembering things you've forgotten when you incarnated.
This is the veil of forgetfulness lifting. It's what I call the shift in consciousness.
You may start remembering your station in between lives, as well as other lives. but only what you can use.
We don't need to know every single life in order to live this one, this particular role.
You might become aware of a guide in your field trying to get your attention. as it was this way for me. I was given little hints about how to pace myself.
which means not to get impatient with self while learning the Course, and there's life after the Course to consider, where we still need to learn not to rush into learning, even though it feels good to get new concepts, they are really old concepts, we just hadn't noticed them before.

ACIM doesn't teach anything new. It attempts to unteach some things we may have been programmed with unknowingly,

As children we may have been told something about ourselves which we accepted as true, and then buried it. If we have such a program, we tend to see it outpictured as true.
What the Course does is tell you that you are OK the way you are because at your core you are Love. God Stuff. What belongs to God returns to God. What is pure returns to what is pure when the lies and illusions fall away, love is revealed.

like with Helen and Bill, behind all the fighting and turmoil, the Course material revealed, they really loved each other.
Love was there all the time, but need the two egos to undo each other and reveal it's there.

It may take you only several months to get the whole of it, but if you do the year's worth of affirmations like I did, more likely it will take a full year to get it all, and then you attain the knowing, and the peace of mind is the priority to attain.

I used to sit and read only one paragraph and then enter some sort of blissful area, where time would go by without my noticing. if you get in this state, then don't worry, you are absorbing on another level something you need.
the hardest part for me was remembering 3 times during my daily affairs, the day's lesson plan.

All we are asked to do is bring it to mind for a moment. the unconscious mind begins to work on the lesson, and later, you understand and get the full import of the lesson, quite effortlessly, and this produces sort of a revelatory state of consciousness, or receptive to HS's voice, I might say.

there's two voices in the head. The ego speaks first. The 2nd voice is HS. Spirit. which is the voice of peace and love.

The ego always speaks in fear. The 2nd voice always speaks of love. Love will lead to peace on earth, good will towards men.
laughingRain Comment by laughingRain on September 8, 2009 at 9:56am
Hi Kasha, you must be reading the Urtext version, which includes some personal communications to Helen and Bill, the two psychologists involved in getting the material to the public.

I believe it would be less confusing to read ACIM first and the Urtext is not necessary really, unless you're a person who is more curious about Helen and Bill's personal stuff, than the content of ACIM.
by way of explanation, how the Course came about, Helen and Bill were co-workers for many years. They got to arguing all the time about how to run the place effectively.

Their problems with their relationship and getting along with one another are no different than anyone else's relationship problems where disagreements escalate.
After noticing this pattern they had of arguing, yet infrequently reaching truce arrangements, they both must have reached the end of their rope, as they finally decided to ask god for help, in a prayer, they joined in agreement, at last, in a simple prayer.

This is the real miracle of the ACIM being born. That they finally agreed, they needed god's help, even if they were not particularly religious people, so it's all the more remarkable, that non-religious psychologists would turn to God.

It had to be a strong emotional moment for them both, to set their differences aside just for a moment, and as it were, they asked for a miracle to occur in their relationship.

The result was Helen began getting complete ACIM passages on a regular basis, which intrigued her, yet worried her, about where it was coming from, and whether it was indeed, coming from the source (J) whom it said it was coming from.

she began to have a belief system crash of her own. But since her and Bill had prayed, she now turned to Bill for help and he told her to write the stuff down and show it to him and they would go from there, and so their relationship was indeed taking a turn for the better, as they fought each other less and less, and began to work with the message in the Course.

Ultimately, the Course is about human relationships and how to get along with one another. ACIM then points to the power of joining together in prayer, and that prayers are answered. J was leading horses to water, but it's really up to the horse to drink or not.
So I would advise just to read the regular text, not the urtext. and do the daily affirmation lessons while reading only one page of the regular text a day.
so you don't overload yourself. There's plenty of time. no rush to get it all quickly.
Akasha Comment by Akasha on September 7, 2009 at 1:13pm
Is this what you mean by waking the dead and bringing health to the sick? I understand the meaning of the phraseology now...
Akasha Comment by Akasha on September 7, 2009 at 1:12pm
I have started meditating n the thoughts and trying to work it as I go....though when I read about helen and jacks thing it doesn't lift me as much as the rest of it...those comments in it confuse me more than anything....am I wrong there???
I do not know what DP is Revenrend...can you explain who that is to me please?

Please just talk....tell me more, I can't seem to get enough about this and how I am a part of it. I know I am, please guide me Retrieve me. ::waves::

Akasha
laughingRain Comment by laughingRain on September 5, 2009 at 8:59pm
to follow your line of thought Kasha, I began to try to live the Course's message around the mid 80's after finishing all three texts. and there are 365 daily lesson plans necessary to meditate on each easy lesson, during a day, to bring the lesson to mind 3 times during the day.
It starts to activate higher thought that way.

From mid 80's until 1998 I coasted with life, waiting for God to take the final step as promised in ACIM.
Had some experiences, some obes and paranormal adventures, a near death experience, a testing of faith. The final step I believe is indeed the process of ascension..it is something cannot be hurried along. Along about 1998 I acquired the farm I'd always wanted and I lived there secluded mostly attending to the affairs of a property owner.
I began to think about writing a book during this time as I began to study the art of retrieval. Which is to help those who are in spirit, to move to a place where they may rejoin their loved ones. It is like astral planes, sometimes called focus levels.

The act of retrievals increases your vibratory rate as you are in service to life. It heals the separation too. that illusion.
DP began to surface into my consciousness about this time as a spirit guide and channeling began, although it was like channeling my own self, as indeed, we are one.

All acts of kindness are speeding us toward ascension process, for PUL is our saving grace, aside from religious inference.
PUL is unconditional pure love, undistorted love as I like to refer to it. Pure of suggestions or strickly unselfish in it's energy comportment. It awakens the dead to activity, or joy.

You are a part of this. are u not here, and have you not lit a candle under me? anybody who may infer you are not well adusted, would be talking about their own self.

Yes, I believe 2012 is fresh beginnings also. It is ok to have a special date to look forward to with hopefulness and expectation, yet we are not limited to the idea of our growth beginning at that date, but rather right now is ok too.

Already, we are starting to manifest quickly our thoughts and intentions. It is important to observe what we are creating, as time has speeded up. It appears we have less psychological time in a day now, they are saying where we once had a 24 hour day, we now have a 23 hour day due to the spinning factor of the earth, I suppose. something to ponder on how fast time seems to fly.
According to my obe encounters, nde's and such, some of us are already in the 4rth and 5th dimensions of consciousness.

yes, physician heal thyself is a very good tenet to live by. for instance, never go to an overweight doctor if you want to be taught to lose weight. by their love you will know them DP says.

cool about the juicing thing Kasha! it's so hard to change our eating habits, especially if you're married to someone who doesn't want to change the eating pattern.
right after I finished writing my book, I lost about 20 lbs of weight and this I feel was a product of not carrying around so much heavy thoughts from uncomfortable experiences I'd had. sort of like discovering the value of forgiveness, through ACIM at first, then applying the teachings.
I think for me, the V8 juice is something I can get for myself, though sometimes I will make carrot juice here.
they say thin people have more energy overall, and I think it will help any health condition to lose extra lbs. I'm looking forward to hearing about your progress dearlite!
Akasha Comment by Akasha on September 5, 2009 at 3:27am
I firmly believ in the Acension proxcess Reverend Laughing RainWhen you talk about your curious lack of gravity I am fascinated byt how long and how this process started to take place. I yearnn for this to happen to me. I want to part of the 2012 acension process and able to be a well adjusted part of this.
I know that it is a reality and we are approaching it Maybe not exactly in 2012 on that day of Dec 21st. but it may start slowly in 2012.I feel that Quantum Physics will be a very important part of this process and we will be able tomanifext more readily and we will be living more in a 4th or 5th dimiension experience rather than the 3rd diminsional one we live in now. I have watched "What The Bleep" and it made perfect sense to me...I feel I'm part of this change and here to help others. But I truly believe you can not help others if you can not help yourself. In an effort to evolve I look to those like you who are obviously in the process as my mentors. I'm so glad ou shared that with me....yes, I was the right person to share that with Reverend. The idea of no sickness and being someone who heals would be impressive and might convince others that this is a serious and real situation. I've been ill a long time. I am looking into jicing programs and I got a new blender. I am going to try the Carrott and celery with V8 fusion joice which has Veggie and fruit. Sooo here goes...I start today. I know I will lose a lot of weight doing this, though that is not my goal. I have that last 20 pounds or so, but I want to heal my body more than that. Thank you for the advice Reverend.
I feel the ACIM path will help me. Thank you again!

Akasha
laughingRain Comment by laughingRain on September 3, 2009 at 12:23pm
just sharing since you asked Akasha. I believe my light body has become activated, to cause me to begin dancing and singing again as I did in my younger years.
A curious lack of gravity makes my light body feel as if the physical body is gliding rather than walking.
I've been dying to tell someone about it. I figured you might be the person I can share it with.
What happens, this is during an ascension process, the light enters the cells of your body physical.

there you will have no infirmary, when the kundalini also rises up the spine, in it's natural, rather than forced doing so.
If you are the ACIM path, you will forgive your body for what it limits you now, you will notice forgiveness of self will become a way for the light energy to flood your being.
Fear or doubts will recede until they are totally gone from the life force, through your acceptance of health and also you may consider your body is talking to you.
it has it's own internal healing mechanism you can activate by listening to what it needs to get well.

there may be some vital element, whether mineral, or vitamin or herb lacking. study is necessary and often the solution is very close to us if we don't give into despair while researching the needs of the body as a whole unit, rather than focusing on one particular organ which is malfunctioning.

this is what our society does not do quite yet, is to see the body as one whole item and work from that premise.
but since you have been diagnosed with these particular labels, I would start there to research others who have cured themselves of those particular diseases. while working with the mind to find out why you believe suffering is to be your lot.
It could just as well be you will find a unique way of dealing with your ailment, and then pass this on to the rest of us, as one of your life's intentions.
talk soon and remember every question has an answer.
laughingRain Comment by laughingRain on September 3, 2009 at 11:58am
I will see how I may serve you. I may get some info in my sleep state and I'll pass it on. It looks like in spite of the health concerns you are able to maintain a positive attitude?

I would not accept the idea to accept a mal-functioning body as a part of your life experience, as that sounds more like a resigned, pick up your cross and bear it attitude.
You deserve more than that out of your life force.

off hand, I was just discussing with a friend regarding seeking wholistic ways of dealing with the body and not traditional medical answers as they mostly mask the symptoms, but don't get to the cause of the ailment.
I mentioned apple cider vinegar alleviates arthritus as does the eating of cherries. it acts to break up calsium deposits which make us stiff limbered. it also alkalinalizes the blood which gets too acid. Vegetable and fruits act as cleansers of the body.
It would seem quality of life is more important than quantity of years, so I'm rooting for you.
It could be you will do research on the names of these diseases, on the internet, and look for the people who have cured their selves. surely there are some who would share their story.

my mother was given 3 months to live by the AMA. She cured herself through the Gerston Method; a fresh juice fast, mostly carrot and celery mixed together, and light coffee enemas for the cancerous colon area, and the cancer was located throughout the body. They taught her how to do high colonics on her own. She lived another 30 years with no trace of the cancer returning. So I am a huge proponent of a cleansing type of diet, no matter what the disease.
Some foods are considered alive. while such as meat is considered a dead food.
she could no longer eat fried chicken as was her habit, however they did allow fresh pressed calves liver! yuck! it was for the B12.

B12 gives energy to the entire system, but you can get that in another form besides calves liver.
no more touch steaks, or pork. no telling what the pig has injested that you now partake of. same with canned and processed foods, it's risky when you get older, our system becomes toxic, metabolism slows down. we get fat. we accept our lot in life.

why cannot we grow younger instead? or maintain our current age? dare to think differently from the crowd, this is how you will gain your health.
Never give in, never give up your right to be healthy and happy despite the establishment will feed you dire statistics.
God did not make this world of ill health to endure.

We can believe as we wish. We can believe in miracles. We have the ability to make a decision for quality over quantity.
I will consider you tonight in my sleep state. perhaps you will see me there. let me know. love to you beautiful lady.

yes, your guy loves you very much. He wants the best for you also. I guess age does not really matter much at all when it comes to affairs of the heart.
Akasha Comment by Akasha on September 3, 2009 at 11:13am
Dear Reverend, I would like to ask for you to go inside and ask your other selves if you can find a healing for me...I'm told I have Fibromyalgia and severe Osteoarthritis that is crippling me, my hands, hips, feet ,neck and almost my entire body is effected. Can you possibly ask your selves what, if anything, I can do to heal myself, or should I accept certain disabilities as part of this life experience. I need some peace of mind here. I'd like to talk to someone who has crossed the bridge and can look at my light body and see what I need to address. I want to be a better person, and a healthier person. If that is possible, I humbly ask for some sort of answer.

I've been married to man 23 years my junior. It seems very shocking to some, but his mind and mine are so happy with one another...it's not sexual, though that's nice, it's not the focus of our relationship. Marty is a wonderful kind and compassionate man. He takes care of me like he was born to do so. It's wild to me. I question everyday why a wonderful handsome guy like this is with someone how is almost crippled and unable to work and add money to the household like a well bodied young woman. I don't get it...other than our minds are so in love with one another and our peace in being together is unsurpassed. Something for you to ponder.

Thank you for being such a good woman,spirit,whatever I address when I speak to you..hahahaha...I would love to know more about you...so fiddle away lady bug! LOL
laughingRain Comment by laughingRain on September 3, 2009 at 10:46am
hi kasha, that's what others have said to me, that they feel personally connected to me or they will profess their love for me, or if it's a man, sometimes he will begin to profess he wants to be physically intimate with me. I have now begun to see their astral body come to me telling me of their intentions towards me. Their desire body is revealed.
It's funny when you cross the bridge what I mentioned before, everybody's thoughts and intentions get revealed and nothing can be hidden from Spirit anyway.
One time this good friend of mine asked me "are you in my head?"
Well, no, I don't think so, I get vibes off certain words which leads me to the person theology or belief system.
all belief systems are for anybody to tap into if they want. nobody particularly owns a belief system that cannot be shared.
This One-ness theology of ACIM is demonstrated, that we are connected in that oneness, particularly if the ego does not be so reactive and judgmental, then the oneness is there to be enjoyed as the truth. you are more or less looking at yourself then. I see another's perfection only, as ACIM tells me I am one with you, with all, the same.
My love is the same for everyone, and that is the reason I have no partner perhaps, I can't secularlize love and loving into a special relationship; they are all special or they are all holy, but they can't be both special and holy at the same time.
Holy to mean whole. completed. nothing to fight over. nothing to lose, nothing to gain. just being. just revealing love. just celebrating what already is happening on this planet.

this makes life quite interesting to be hit on all the time, yet it causes a twinge of pain to encounter another's unfulfilled desire agenda, where I have no agenda to fulfill anymore. it's not me they want to be intimate with, it's the way I'm happy inside from my studies that they would be desiring to own that peace of mind. I've had a lousy life before the Course Akasha, but hey! I really feel this is my graduation life.
So there is a celebratory mood I'm in, and Im quite not taken seriously in this case!

I am easier to get along with as concerning girlfriends then, as I know they do not wish to exchange fluids with me, offer me a paid trip to Mexico, or anything else they may want to give me.
although I wouldn't mind a mate at this late time of my life, should he truly understand ACIM and or ancient esoterics. Many will say they understand, but they don't.

I am celibate since 91 by choice after many strange love affairs utilizing the body as a bridge to get love.
I love hearing about your successful union; I look for couples who are "making happy." I've found a few to interview, which tells me I may find a partner, but only if Spirit puts him directly in my path with a flashing neon sign in his hand saying it is I!

In ACIM J mentions, that is what a relationship is supposed to do is simply make each other happy. that is what love is, rather than the joining of two bodies which is so inconsequential it's almost ridiculous our thought forms about sex.
J says bodies do not join. minds join.
yet of course, sex makes the world go 'round and I cannot judge the activities of it, and have partook whenever I got the chance.

I don't feel I personally mentor, but that it is spirit or DP my guide who does that, or to say, all these other lives lived, they are all me, all these people are inside of me, and I will call that spirit as it's more easily understood than explaining my chinese life is now advocating you take a specific herb for your body ailment.

what I'm really doing is plugging into the collective thought forms of which we all share, following the person's thoughts and remembering for them who they really are..and you are lovely and loving, kind and gracious, nonjudgmental and respectful to others, so then you extend that to me also. as I am all of that too. so we recognize kindred spirits.
we heal the illusory separation that way, that Course talks about, we are here to heal the separation between god and man.
which never really occurred!

blessings, I must be having some sort of growth spurt here. getting long winded! maybe you better stop playing my fiddle dear lite!
 

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